From MSNBC "Environment" Discussion 10/19/07
Let me get this straight. From this graph ( very tight correlation ) it is obvious that methane, CO2 and temperature are related. However if the "greenhouse" gases (methane and CO2) cause the temperature rise, what caused the increase of these gases? Was there some giant, mysterious belch of gas from Mother Earth that caused global warming? Highly unlikely. The only possible explanation is that increasing temperature causes an increase in CO2 and methane.
If we only look at the present, it is easy to think greenhouse gases are causing warming. If we look at even this brief (450,000 year ice core) history of past climate change, we must conclude that CO2 is not the cause of climate change.
Message #67910/19/07 03:40 PM
I agree 100 percent. Solar activity warms the earth, then greenhouse gases are released. Greenhouse gases are not triggers, they are byproduct of warming. Even today, the amount of C02 caused by man, is very small.
It's truly amazing how simple is all is if one opens their mind and sees the factual evidence. Then they will come to see just how silly Al Gore's rants truly are.
Message #68010/19/07 03:57 PM
If there were only one line of evidence showing CO2 emissions (or greenhouse gases, since everyone relates to that term) can not be causing global warming and certainly not that big "bogey man" climate change, there might be some question. But there are so many independent lines of evidence showing that CO2 does not cause global warming; it amazes me that Gore en company have gotten this far with this charade.
Can you explain it? I feel like I've been asleep for the last 20 years while Gore was plugging away, paving the path for this monstrous deception. Of course Gore had some help from people like this fool McKibben. I guess I was just busy and never took them seriously.
It just goes to show you that "you can fool some of the people all of the time, and you can fool all of the people some of the time, but you can't fool ALL of the people ALL of the time." I don't know who said that, but it's true.